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  Why is the finished mystery of 1917 so expensive compared to other JW books?

  by blownaway in

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  i see these on ebay from time to time and they go fro 150 to 200 dollars.

  seems like a lot.

  other old jw books go for much less.

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  The Watchtower organization was much smaller then, so the initial print run was small, also, that was long ago, and lots of dogs have eaten a lot of homework in that time, also, no doubt many copies were destroyed when the US gov't cracked down on the Watchtower for violating the Espionage Act.

  Today a heavily-revised version of the book is kept in print by people who think that Pastor Russell was the man with all the answers - never mind that NOTHING Russell predicted came to pass - unless you count INVISIBLY, in which case it ALL CAME TRUE.

  As pointed out, if you simply wanted to satisfy your curiosity, you can do so for free. If you are jealous of antiquarian booksellers making a killing, work on improving your character. Envy is ugly and you are better than that. (Yes, I don't know you from Adam, but envy is ugly on EVERYONE, and EVERYONE is better than that.)
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  went to see MOM for MOTHERS day and jw dad showed up

  by JunkYardDog in

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  i surprised mom with flowers and cake ,candy etc.

  she was so happy, i told her i was going to work.

  and couldn't see her for mother's day, she said she was just staying home,as none of my non jw bro's or sisters were taking her out for dinner.

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  Maybe you could bring your Dad a bunch of good, tastyJERKY for Father's Day and not explain the symbolic significance of the gift until a few days after he'd eaten it all. Not the real hot spicy habanero stuff - unless that is what he likes. In addition to Beef, there is Pork and even Fish, not to mention the exotic meats you can get from Cabella's or other expedition suppliers.

  I'm sure you get the joke, but don't tell him what it is until After he's eaten it all.

  "Take, eat... this is my fish."
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  I went to this elders home this morning ready for war, just like I said I would

  by JunkYardDog in

  1. social
  2. current

  i knocked on his door with 2 bibles and a 1984 wt bound volume in hand.

  i was ready for war!

  he surprised me and invited me in.

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  I love the way speechless cowards are so quick to criticize JunkYardDog for his direct style of "counter-witnessing." Some of these same speechless cowards are great fans of the prevaricating phony who calls himself Cedars.

  I consider JunkYardDog a personal friend whose feet I am not worthy to wash. Maybe his method isn't always as polished as a used-car salesman's or a Circuit Servant, but his FACTS are incontrovertably CORRECT - ALL OF THE TIME. I think that is what the speechless ones hate the most - that my friend JunkYardDog knows what he is talking about, while the speechless ones only know how they FEEL.
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  Even elders don’t know their beliefs

  by Addison0998 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i had a deep conversation with my elder father today about the bible.

  first i talked to him about luke 16:19-31. the one where jesus makes this crazy illustration regarding the afterlife.

  of course he had to look it up on the watchtower library to be spoon fed his beliefs.

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  I'm reminded of the comment made by WTB&TS President Nathan Knorr, who said that all he was sure about was that Jehovah was God; 1914 and all the other stuff... well he wasn't sure.

  It is GOOD that Knorr lived to see the grand hallucinations of Freddy Franz fail. It is a shame that so many were disfellowshipped for voicing their doubts before Knorr decided to voice his doubts.
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  Posters You Miss

  by minimus in

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  anyone that you miss from this site, dead or alive??.

  i miss farkel, blondie and a host of others!.

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  Minimus, you scared me! I thought something had happened to Blondie - I'm glad that she's OK but just cutting back.

  I remember so many from back when I first came aboard here - get the pun?

  Yes, I have wondered about Mulan, and I wish it was possible to hear from VeniceIT, BBoyNeko, and so many others. I sincerely hope they are happy and doing well.

  I miss those from whom we will never hear again: Mouthy, Farkel, and others.

  Most of all, I miss myself. Memory is starting to go... who was I?
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  Very Rare! "MILITARISM" by JFR

  by Nathan Natas in

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  2. beliefs

  sometime beween august of 1914 and october of 1916, the highly esteemed "judge" joseph franklin rutherford wrote a little tract with the title,.

  "militarism - how will it be forever destroyed?

  a masterly discourse by j. f. rutherford of the new york city bar".

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  Seems like only ten years ago!

  This 12 page pamphlet can be downloaded in various formats for FREE from

  https://archive.org/details/MilitarismByJ.f.Rutherford

  Let the word go out through all the land!

  I suggest the pdf format for best quality.
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  Biography of Pastor Russell's personal secretary - Fredrik Homer Robison (1885-1932)

  by Fernando in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a search of wt lib 2010 produces 16 hits for "robison" of which some refer to frederick h. robison.. this website has an independent biography:.

  http://www.concordant.org/expohtml/faithfullaborers/co_laborers.html#robison.

  in case of link-rot someone may want to copy the biography and paste below?.

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  Anyone interested in Fredrik Homer Robison may want to read “Color And Character: A Contemplation Of The Four Divine Qualities” published on LULU.com. It is a compilation of articles Robison wrote for The Golden Age in 1920 and 1921 and includes a biography of the man. It seems Robison had synesthesia and did not realize that most people did not perceive the world quite the same way he did.
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  Atheists - How Did You Become An Atheist After Waking Up?

  by pale.emperor in

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  2. experiences

  i consider myself an atheist.

  and right now i'm reading a lot on atheism in general (books written to answer creationists).. i'd be interested in knowing how you became an atheist after leaving the jws and how long did it take?

  was it instant or did your belief in a deity gradually decline?.

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  One minute I was a JW, and the next I was an atheist!

  It was a M I R A C L E !
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  Are you a woman? Do you know one?

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  if you can answer yes to either question, you should consider listening to the latest episode of "shunned".

  in it, brenda tells her story inside the flds cult, a story of women and what they go through.

  this is happening right here in the united states.

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  No, and I don't.
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  2018 Convention movie: Jonah.... oh my god it's bad......!

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so, once again the society has produced a cringe-worthy, spew-inducing piece of "cinema".. i don't recognise this religion anymore...... enjoy this review:.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5f0tovqkfem.

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  Crazyguy asked, "Does anyone know or does the Bible state when the Jonah story supposedly happen?"

  I'm not a "Bible scholar" but Wikipedia says, "Jonah is the name given in the Hebrew Bible to a prophet of Israel in about the 8th century BCE."

  I think the WTB&TS teaches that Jonah lived last Thursday.